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	<title>Comments on: Literary Movements: Insider as Outsider and Token Renegade</title>
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		<title>By: Pigsnout2</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Dec 2010 23:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Agreed and yet Williams was grateful, overly so. Jarrell was that powerful at the time, and it helped Laughlin&#039;s press tremendously. Williams&#039; books before New Directions were all more or less co-operatives or self published. His book by Angel Flores had not sold at all. If you want a blow by blow account of Williams&#039; long struggle towards prominence, read a very complete book on the history of his critical reception by Paul Marianni. I found it in a library garbage bin a couple decades back and still find it both enjoyable and useful.. Back then, poets were to be reserved in their praise, and Williams was still considered a bit of a quack, and an under achiever-- especially by his good buddy, Pound. Jarrell&#039;s back handed intro should be seen in balance with its time. Charlotte Bronte&#039;s apology for the crudity of Emily Bronte is even more shocking along those lines and Allen Tate absolutely betrayed  and savaged his friend, Hart Crane. That was not a time for self-loving academics. Blood was on everyone&#039;s lips, bite marks on everyone&#039;s shoulders. Jarrell took a chance, but it was an easy chance since Laughlin was rich, and money talks on the poetry scene. Let&#039;s not be stupid about it. Poets often attack the weak and kiss the ass of the strong. This is even more so in this age when only tenure allows poets to make a living.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed and yet Williams was grateful, overly so. Jarrell was that powerful at the time, and it helped Laughlin&#8217;s press tremendously. Williams&#8217; books before New Directions were all more or less co-operatives or self published. His book by Angel Flores had not sold at all. If you want a blow by blow account of Williams&#8217; long struggle towards prominence, read a very complete book on the history of his critical reception by Paul Marianni. I found it in a library garbage bin a couple decades back and still find it both enjoyable and useful.. Back then, poets were to be reserved in their praise, and Williams was still considered a bit of a quack, and an under achiever&#8211; especially by his good buddy, Pound. Jarrell&#8217;s back handed intro should be seen in balance with its time. Charlotte Bronte&#8217;s apology for the crudity of Emily Bronte is even more shocking along those lines and Allen Tate absolutely betrayed  and savaged his friend, Hart Crane. That was not a time for self-loving academics. Blood was on everyone&#8217;s lips, bite marks on everyone&#8217;s shoulders. Jarrell took a chance, but it was an easy chance since Laughlin was rich, and money talks on the poetry scene. Let&#8217;s not be stupid about it. Poets often attack the weak and kiss the ass of the strong. This is even more so in this age when only tenure allows poets to make a living.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Weil on Literary Movements: Insider as Outsider and Token Renegade. &#171; We Who Are About To Die</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Dec 2010 17:27:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Asbury Park</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Asbury Park]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Dec 2010 16:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jarrell&#039;s intro to WCW&#039;s Selected was complimentary in  a backhanded sort of way. By the time I read it, Williams&#039; rep thankfully didn&#039;t need Jarrell&#039;s tepid endorsement. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jarrell&#8217;s intro to WCW&#8217;s Selected was complimentary in  a backhanded sort of way. By the time I read it, Williams&#8217; rep thankfully didn&#8217;t need Jarrell&#8217;s tepid endorsement. </p>
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